1 00:00:00,269 --> 00:00:02,936 (gentle music) 2 00:00:06,260 --> 00:00:10,250 - My name is Thomas Zurbuchen, also known as Dr. Z. 3 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:13,410 - And I'm Ellen Stofan, also known as Dr. E. 4 00:00:13,410 --> 00:00:16,970 Welcome to another episode of "E.Z. Science." 5 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:17,803 So we're here at 6 00:00:17,803 --> 00:00:20,140 the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. 7 00:00:20,140 --> 00:00:23,330 And this is an amazing exhibit that I'm so excited about. 8 00:00:23,330 --> 00:00:25,820 It's called If Then She Can, 9 00:00:25,820 --> 00:00:29,760 which is all about if you can see it, you can believe it, 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,090 and we want girls to know they can. 11 00:00:32,090 --> 00:00:35,520 They can become scientists, engineers, and technologists. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,520 We have 120 3D printed orange plastic statues 13 00:00:41,660 --> 00:00:45,010 all of women who are currently right now changing the world 14 00:00:45,010 --> 00:00:47,640 in science, technology, engineering, and math. 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,140 It's the largest group of statues 16 00:00:50,140 --> 00:00:51,800 of women ever brought together 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,810 by the Lyda Hill Philanthropies. 18 00:00:53,810 --> 00:00:56,900 But what is really important to me is in the few weeks 19 00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:58,610 we've had this at the Smithsonian, 20 00:00:58,610 --> 00:01:02,060 we've had many of the women who these are statue of 21 00:01:02,060 --> 00:01:03,490 here with us. 22 00:01:03,490 --> 00:01:05,220 - And I had an opportunity to speak 23 00:01:05,220 --> 00:01:09,520 with Dr. Kelly Korreck today, who I know for over 20 years 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,190 because 17 years ago or so she graduated with a doctorate 25 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:15,060 and I happened to be the PhD advisor. 26 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:18,010 And I followed her career from the Smithsonian. 27 00:01:18,010 --> 00:01:20,323 She's currently working at NASA Headquarters. 28 00:01:21,170 --> 00:01:23,360 Hey Kelly, it's just wonderful to see you here. 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,930 And you being honored, 30 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:27,890 one of the statues that we're looking at, 31 00:01:27,890 --> 00:01:32,160 you were a student of mine and graduated 17 years ago 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,240 with a doctorate. 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,140 What happen since then, Kelly? 34 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:36,300 - Well, thank you so much, Thomas. 35 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:38,980 Yeah, the last 17 years has been so exciting, 36 00:01:38,980 --> 00:01:40,800 done a variety of things. 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,140 Went, first of all, to the Center for Astrophysics, 38 00:01:43,140 --> 00:01:44,750 the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory 39 00:01:44,750 --> 00:01:47,490 up in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where I did a postdoc 40 00:01:47,490 --> 00:01:49,760 and studied stars that explode 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,970 as well as jets coming out of galaxies. 42 00:01:51,970 --> 00:01:54,140 Then moved on to start building instruments 43 00:01:54,140 --> 00:01:55,550 and focusing on the sun, 44 00:01:55,550 --> 00:01:56,960 which was really one of my first loves 45 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,230 and work I've done with you as a graduate student. 46 00:01:59,230 --> 00:02:01,300 I worked on NASA's Parker Solar Probe, 47 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:02,740 the mission to touch the sun, 48 00:02:02,740 --> 00:02:04,310 and part of that instrument suite 49 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:06,250 that was able to fly into the corona 50 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:08,510 for the first time last year. 51 00:02:08,510 --> 00:02:09,343 - Just wonderful. 52 00:02:09,343 --> 00:02:11,533 So you of course built one of the hottest instruments 53 00:02:11,533 --> 00:02:14,220 actually ever built for space research, 54 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:17,750 an instrument that's on the outside of the heat shield. 55 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:20,040 Tell us what's the most important thing you figured out 56 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,482 in your own research that relates to that instrument? 57 00:02:23,482 --> 00:02:26,330 - Right, the things that I figured out specifically was 58 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:28,030 to look at coronal mass ejections, 59 00:02:28,030 --> 00:02:29,710 or these billions of tons of material, 60 00:02:29,710 --> 00:02:31,820 equivalent to 80 million school buses, 61 00:02:31,820 --> 00:02:34,520 racing towards us at millions of miles an hour 62 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,660 and how they're different. 63 00:02:35,660 --> 00:02:38,080 And we've saw for the first time, the closest, 64 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,950 the birth of these CMEs with Parker and how they evolve, 65 00:02:41,950 --> 00:02:43,420 and how they are a little different 66 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:45,100 than what they look like in at Earth. 67 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:46,190 And so that's why we need to go 68 00:02:46,190 --> 00:02:47,450 all these different vantage points 69 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:49,551 to really understand space weather. 70 00:02:49,551 --> 00:02:52,390 - I have to tell you how when I was a grad student 71 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:54,790 and a postdoc, I dreamed of those data. 72 00:02:54,790 --> 00:02:57,150 I'm just so proud that you are able 73 00:02:57,150 --> 00:03:00,150 to make those first observations close to the sun 74 00:03:00,150 --> 00:03:01,500 of these amazing phenomena, 75 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:03,762 which of course shape astrophysics. 76 00:03:03,762 --> 00:03:07,440 What is your advice to young girls 77 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,980 about potential careers in science? 78 00:03:09,980 --> 00:03:10,970 - Stay curious. 79 00:03:10,970 --> 00:03:13,410 Figure out what problem you wanna solve 80 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:15,400 and then ask the questions that are going 81 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,700 to help you solve that. 82 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:19,970 Work together, find someone who inspires you, 83 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:21,790 surround yourself with people who are curious 84 00:03:21,790 --> 00:03:23,970 and interesting, and you'll do great things. 85 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:25,750 - You being honored as part of that exhibit, 86 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:27,500 it means just a lot to me personally, 87 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:30,660 because I'm so proud of you, of what you have achieved. 88 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:31,910 - Well, thank you so much. 89 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:34,491 - That was such a great conversation with Kelly. 90 00:03:34,491 --> 00:03:37,826 And earlier I got to speak with Dana Bolles. 91 00:03:37,826 --> 00:03:41,207 - I know Dana from the work that she does at NASA. 92 00:03:41,207 --> 00:03:42,750 And I wanna tell you, 93 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:45,062 what she's really helping us with is how 94 00:03:45,062 --> 00:03:48,420 to communicate science, not only individually 95 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:50,640 to young girls and learners of all ages, 96 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,030 but also rebuilding our entire websites 97 00:03:54,030 --> 00:03:57,950 that communicate science to large audiences worldwide. 98 00:03:57,950 --> 00:04:00,670 - Dana, I'm so excited to have you here today 99 00:04:00,670 --> 00:04:01,760 at the Air and Space Museum, 100 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,350 and I'm so inspired by your statue. 101 00:04:04,350 --> 00:04:06,882 What is it like to see yourself in orange plastic? 102 00:04:06,882 --> 00:04:11,130 - Oh, it's really weird. 103 00:04:11,130 --> 00:04:12,090 It's really strange. 104 00:04:12,090 --> 00:04:15,420 I never thought I would see a statue of myself, 105 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:18,200 much less a full scale size one. 106 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:23,200 And being part of collection is just an amazing experience. 107 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:25,260 And meeting the other ambassadors, 108 00:04:25,260 --> 00:04:27,740 I'm so honored to be part of such a group. 109 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:28,850 - And what's your story? 110 00:04:28,850 --> 00:04:31,940 How did you get inspired to go into space? 111 00:04:31,940 --> 00:04:33,340 - I was born with this disability. 112 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:37,850 And so when I was younger, I thought that the best job 113 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:40,540 in the world would be to be in space 114 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:43,970 where I could float around and I wouldn't need the chair, 115 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:45,840 and I didn't have to look up at people. 116 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:49,103 And it just felt like a perfect job to have. 117 00:04:49,103 --> 00:04:51,400 When I was younger, I wanted to be an astronaut, 118 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,610 and as I got older, I focused more on engineering 119 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:58,710 because I realized that I depend a lot on equipment 120 00:04:58,710 --> 00:05:01,710 to be independent from my chair and my arms, 121 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:04,440 and especially equipment to drive my van. 122 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,480 So based on all those things 123 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,913 it just felt natural to choose engineering. 124 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:12,380 - You've had some really interesting roles at NASA. 125 00:05:12,380 --> 00:05:14,570 Can you tell us about a few of them? 126 00:05:14,570 --> 00:05:16,950 - My very first job with NASA was at 127 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:18,050 the Kennedy Space Center. 128 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:19,740 I was a payload safety engineer 129 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:23,530 and that was an incredible way to be introduced to NASA. 130 00:05:23,530 --> 00:05:25,720 I mean the excitement of working 131 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,550 for America's space program. 132 00:05:27,550 --> 00:05:29,590 And we used to approve everything 133 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:30,830 that went up on the shuttle 134 00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:33,720 or the expendable launch vehicles, the rockets, 135 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,110 and I loved everything about it. 136 00:05:36,110 --> 00:05:38,810 Just learning about the International Space Station 137 00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:41,310 and working on the Mars Orbiter. 138 00:05:41,310 --> 00:05:43,200 It was just excellent. 139 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,300 And then a few years later, I transferred to AIMS 140 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:47,410 and then I worked three years 141 00:05:47,410 --> 00:05:49,720 as a ISS payload logistics lead. 142 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,610 And now I was working with the project 143 00:05:52,610 --> 00:05:54,550 that would put up biological experiments 144 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:56,660 on the International Space Station. 145 00:05:56,660 --> 00:05:59,360 - So amazing, all that is such great science 146 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,910 and it's really moving exploration forward. 147 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:04,840 And what's your role now at NASA headquarters? 148 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,020 - Now I am working for the Science Engagement 149 00:06:08,020 --> 00:06:09,020 and Partnerships Division 150 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:11,170 under the Science Mission Directory. 151 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:13,180 And I manage the day-to-day operations 152 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:15,360 of the science.nasa.gov website. 153 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,380 So how can we get our science 154 00:06:17,380 --> 00:06:19,350 out to the widest possible audience? 155 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:23,340 And right now we are focused more on this special project 156 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:27,410 where we're modernizing and we are reducing our footprint 157 00:06:27,410 --> 00:06:31,680 and improving the user experience to our website. 158 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,590 - That's so important, 159 00:06:32,590 --> 00:06:34,820 that whole piece of how we communicate what we do 160 00:06:34,820 --> 00:06:37,440 to the public to engage and inspire. 161 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,510 And so what advice do you give 162 00:06:40,510 --> 00:06:43,000 to young women when you meet them? 163 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,930 - The best advice I can give is 164 00:06:44,930 --> 00:06:47,290 to figure out what you love to do, 165 00:06:47,290 --> 00:06:50,030 'cause if you get a job doing that 166 00:06:50,030 --> 00:06:52,010 then you won't work a day in your life. 167 00:06:52,010 --> 00:06:57,010 And more importantly, don't let others expectations of you, 168 00:06:58,610 --> 00:07:00,470 of what they think you should be doing, 169 00:07:00,470 --> 00:07:02,760 don't let that sway you from your dreams 170 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,523 because you have the power to make it happen. 171 00:07:06,580 --> 00:07:08,190 - That was such an amazing conversation. 172 00:07:08,190 --> 00:07:10,810 You know, she is so inspiring to me. 173 00:07:10,810 --> 00:07:12,530 I just can't believe what girls must think 174 00:07:12,530 --> 00:07:15,030 when they come in here and see these statues 175 00:07:15,030 --> 00:07:17,070 and get inspired by these women. 176 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:19,980 - I'm just so inspired, not only as a scientist, 177 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:22,810 as a leader, but also as a father of a daughter 178 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:25,430 who's also thinking about science as a future 179 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:27,360 and as one that tries to inspire many others. 180 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,710 I'm just so proud of them and excited 181 00:07:29,710 --> 00:07:32,313 for what this exhibit can do in so many lives. 182 00:07:32,313 --> 00:07:33,650 - Well at the Smithsonian, 183 00:07:33,650 --> 00:07:36,570 we're mostly used to celebrating women from history. 184 00:07:36,570 --> 00:07:38,600 But what I love about this exhibit is 185 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,370 that we're celebrating women right now 186 00:07:41,370 --> 00:07:43,070 who are making such a difference. 187 00:07:43,070 --> 00:07:45,330 And that's really exciting to me. 188 00:07:45,330 --> 00:07:46,670 Thank you for joining us. 189 00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:48,834 And we look forward to the next episode